Monday, February 25, 2019

"spend whatever is necessary"

At Syll: Kelton critiques Krugman's critique of Lerner's analysis

Kelton:
Lerner wasn’t trying to use interest rates to optimize the economy. That was a job for fiscal policy. He argued that the government should be prepared to spend whatever is necessary to sustain full employment without raising taxes or borrowing …
You see that line often, that the government should be prepared to spend "whatever is necessary" to sustain full employment without raising taxes or borrowing. It sounds great, but I can't help thinking that it rests on hopeful analysis rather than on careful analysis.

I call such hopeful views fantasy.


Well, by now everyone who really needs to read this post has stopped reading, called me an ass, and moved on. I'll finish the thought anyway. Maybe they'll be back.

Here's the statement I have trouble with:
government should be prepared to spend whatever is necessary.
"Whatever is necessary" is open-ended: As long as the problem is not solved, the solution remains the same. There is no exit from such a policy. There is no point at which you are forced to say "It's not working. My plan must be wrong." You can use the same plan always, even if it never works.


Some years back, Daniel Kuehn criticized Scott Sumner's analysis, saying that it "meshes together policy goals with actual policies". Kuehn says that for market monetarists like Sumner,
there seems to be no way to logically make the statement "we have done the market monetarist policy rule and the goal was not achieved". Why? Because if NGDP level targets have not been reached then by definition you haven't been doing market monetarist policy.
Kuehn is saying there is no point at which Sumner is forced to say "It's not working. My plan must be wrong."


Not long ago Bill Maher said I don't think there is a great need for new solutions. We've been around these same problems for decades. We know what the solutions are. We only lack the political will to put them into play. Maher's strategy is open-ended: As long as the problem is not solved, his solution is only to try harder. He wants to keep using the same solutions that have not worked in 45 years, and just try harder. Maher's strategy leaves no point at which he is forced to say "It's not working. The plan must be wrong."


Again: There is no point at which Kelton or Lerner would be forced to say "It's not working. Our plan must be wrong."

5 comments:

Jerry said...

Maybe it should be called the dismal humanity!

The Arthurian said...

... as opposed to the dismal science... because it isn't. I get it now. I had to work at that one, Jer.

Unknown said...

I don't think it's correct to suggest that the policy of spending as necessary to ensure full employment is open ended or without end. The point is to spend to ensure full employment and the examples from sovereign western states over the past 120 years shows that this is easily achievable. if it were to be unsuccessful after 6 months then it would be reassessed (having undoubtedly been hammered 24/7 in the media if we are discussing US or UK. yes I've plucked 6months out of my add but I'm sure kelton would agree to it if you wish to ask her.

compares very favourably to the last 45 years of can kicking under the neo liberal finamcialisation policy of using unemployment intentionally to dampen inflation, no?

The Arthurian said...

HM: "I don't think it's correct to suggest that the policy of spending as necessary to ensure full employment is open ended ..."

It is open ended by definition, if the plan is to just keep doing it until it solves the problem. See also the Scott Sumner and Bill Maher examples I provided. This doesn't really have anything to do with economic policy. It has to do with the quality of thought and theory.

HM: "compares very favourably to the last 45 years of can kicking under the neo liberal financialisation policy of using unemployment intentionally to dampen inflation, no?"

That's not the point. I think Kelton's argument (at least as Syll presents it) is incomplete. The above post is one step in that direction. Whether I expect the policy would work or not is ... not interesting, even to me.

Hey, here's something. Let's say you are right, that it compares very favourably to the last 45 years of can kicking under the neolithic financialisation policy, during which time the Federal government must not have been spending enough.

By comparison, before that 45-year period, before 1974 say, apparently the Federal government was spending enough. Okay?

So here's the thing. Look at what Figure 1 here shows and explain the change that started around 1975. The graph shows the opposite of what we should expect.

The Arthurian said...

Bill Maher: We know what the solutions are. We only lack the political will to put them into play.

Milton Friedman: "The problem is to have the political will to take the necessary measures."

I object.