The Future of Monetary Policy: 1982 Hearings of the Joint Economic Committee, a Google Book

From the statement by Harvey D. Wilmeth of Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Co., Milwaukee, Wisconsin; page 196:
A
money and credit system does not manage itself. Either the Government
or the invisible hand of market forces will provide the ultimate
unavoidable discipline. We have chosen to let market forces provide the
bulk of that discipline, but we don't like the consequences. Inflation,
stagnation, and depression are all a part of that discipline. This is an
extraordinarily inefficient way to manage the financial structure of a
modern economy.
I have tried to say something like that:
Jobs?
You think jobs is the problem?? Okay. But it's our problem. A problem
for people. It's not a problem for the economy. If you want jobs from
the economy, you have to give the economy what *it* wants.
And:
I
sometimes say "the economy wants" this or "the economy wants" that. The
economy has its own rules which we did not invent and -- if we want the
economy to do what we want -- we must respect those rules.
I
sometimes say "the economy does not care" about inflation or
unemployment. Those are not problems for the economy. They are problems
for people. For the economy, they are simply ways to correct imbalances.
And again:
Here's
how it works: A man lives for a while, and then dies. A nation lives
for a while, and then dies. A civilization lives for a while, and then
dies.
If you want your civilization to live, not die on your
watch, then economics must be nothing more or less than the effort to
get the right answer.
The right answer does not depend on what you
or I want. It depends on what the economy wants and how the economy
works. Our task is to understand these.
I don't know. Maybe Wilmeth says it better. But for me, finding economists who say what I say validates what I do.
Again,
this is from the 1982 hearings. From the statement by John H. Hotson,
professor of economics at Waterloo University, Waterloo, Ontario; page 215:
The
administration thinks the problem is inflation and that high interest
rates are the solution. But as Mr. Wilmeth has been saying,
overindebtedness and imbalances in the economy are really the basic
problem and high interest rates only make these basic problems worse.
It's the overindebtedness of the private sector I'm talking about rather
than the public sector.
Under the heading "The Rapid Growth of Interest Payments", Hotson adds:
Since
World War II, the private sector has increased its indebtedness four
times as fast as real GNP has increased; it's increased its indebtedness
twice as fast as the nominal GNP has increased; it's increased its
interest payments twenty-six times as fast as real GNP has increased;
and it's increased its interest payments 6 times as fast as even nominal
GNP has increased.
It's this rapid run-up of interest payments
and new borrowings, where both have increased as a percentage of GNP,
which has made the financial system of the economy -- and not just of
this country -- so fragile.
It's simple: cost is a problem.
And please do notice that Hotson's concern is interest payments, not interest rates. Interest payments depend on interest rates and on the accumulation of debt on which interest must be paid.
My concern, like Hotson's, is the cost problem, the cost of finance.
For more on Harvey Wilmeth see The Wilmeth Brothers after Purdue.
John Hotson has apparently been expunged from the Waterloo University site.